‘The Untamed’ cast: Why does everyone hate Jiang Cheng?

to be honest…i didnt like him just because he was dramatic and salty so basically what this read.

Jiang Cheng did not murder Wei Wuxian, the latter chose to jump off the cliff after the death of their sister. Jiang Cheng is always more barks than bites, especially when it comes to his adoptive brother.

But also, the reason why he got captured by the Wen sect and thus lost his core, was only because he wanted to distract the soldiers from finding Wei Wuxian.
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Sorry, but i found this whole article to be biased. If it is only just based on mdzs drama version also .There were lots of detail which had been missed which most likely create misunderstanding among untamed fans for jiang Cheng character. He was the one who sacrifice his golden core ,whole family and also forgive wei wuxian multiple time in series .wei Wuxian may be a hero for other in series but we shouldnt also forget most of the time jiang Cheng had to pay for his heroism .he had character who is bad at showing his affection but he also never leave wei wuxian side .yes he was angry and remained angry but if you watch the series in detail you will get to known he do always care and remain by wei wuxian side .and also he really is not responsible for wei wuxian death .

Sorry if my comment seemed rude .but i think i should point out this to justify jiang Cheng character.

I feel like people are giving Jiang Cheng a hard time because of their love for Wei Wuxian. It’s easy to see how a person with Cheng’s temperament would chafe against Wei Wuxian literally all the time. It’s also easy to see Jiang Chen as an older brother (which he is) with a younger brother who refuses to grow up (which Wei does), and he’s hvaing to shoulder all the responsibility. I also think people need to stop and realize, there are things that we, as the audience know, that Jiang Cheng doesn’t. We know about the Golden Core; Cheng doesn’t. We know that there was a second flute at Nightless City and the puppet that kills Yanli isn’t under Wei’s control. Jiang Chen doesn’t know that. We know that Wei was willing to let his right hand be cut off for the Jiang Clan; Jiang Chen doesn’t know that because it’s presented in the drama as a voice-over from Wen. He finds these things out at the last, and grappling with that knowledge at all once puts Jiang Cheng in a hard place. So much that Jiang Chen doesn’t know, or doesn’t want to see. He is the Jiang Clan Leader now; he can’t think just about Wei Wuxian.

I just wanted to inform you all that the ones who hate A-Cheng are mainly the ones who have also read the book.
In the book, JC led a siege to the Burial Mounds and killed WWX by his own hands (somewhat).
Then JC tortured people who he thought practiced Demonic Cultivation because he thought they were WWX who came back-

He believed every rumour about WWX.
I hate when people say that he suffered alot because of WWX, when JC was the one who is ready to turn on WWX at the drop of a hat. He never stood up for WWX in the book. Ever. Even tho he knew WWX was a good person.

Its clear how even the headline is inclined more to WWX and just flaunt here how everyone ‘despises’ JC because yes, he’s the visibly hot-headed and violent character that is easily latched on to hate and get annoyes while in fact, I think JC is the most complex character in MDZS/The Untamed because he embodies both good and bad flaws. Firstly, JC GENUINELY LOVES WWX! That was never not true or questionnable. What people tend to forget it that JC sacrificed so much and endured as much torment and pain as WWX but clearly the hate is more into him because of the simple fact that WWX is dead and JC is not, festering and developing into an angry and brusque character. The fact that WWX ‘died’ can be likened that he was absolved of his sins (though never pardoned) but JC was the one who lived through 13 years of purposefully being left out, intentionally being discared and abandoned (even if it was for his own good) and struggled to balance everything an adult still has trouble managing on his slender shoulders ALL ALONE. Don’t you all go hatin on JC for how he treats WWX, its understandable and WWX (and even LWJ) is not blameless for everything that’s happened.

To be fair, I have never hated Jiang Cheng, even before I knew his backstory. To me he was a complex character with plenty of flaws. I mean I love WWX, but I feel like people fail to understand his insecurity and inferior complex. His father always favored WWX above him, his mother constantly compared him to WWX, and his brother turned his back to him, the promise of becoming his right hand and staying forever by his side broken. His sister died, his clan and family slaughtered, he lost his golden core, the rumours about his brother weighing down on him, and the ultimate demise of his sister and brother-in-law put the final nail in the coffin. Plus he was young when he was thrown into war and conflict. What else did you expect from him? Not everyone can be perfect you know.

i honestly didn’t like him at first because he appeared rather ruthless and i was almost positive that he was one of the villains, but i eventually learned to love him even more so than i liked wei wuxian.

towards the whole situation, i can only say that all of them are equally flawed.

however, the comment there saying jiang cheng killed wei wuxian is not really true, in the novel at least. yes, he led the siege but he did not kill him. wei wuxian’s powers backfired in the novel.

and he never stood up for him? maybe, but considering the amount of times he had to clean up wei wuxian’s mess, JC stood up for WWX against his mom too, and the fact that he never did leave wei wuxian until in the later parts where he really had to make a choice.

yes, there are a lot of things to hate about jiang cheng, but the most things related to wei wuxian, no.

he’s misunderstood, but at the same time, his character is underdeveloped, really. in fact, a lot of the characters are undeveloped at the later parts of the story because it started to focus more on romance. and. it feels like he’s that character used to boost the main protagonist.

but anyways, more and more people are actually loving him, so that’s fine.

One thing that frustrates me about JC’s character is his overall stubbornness, and how he refuses to see that things aren’t just black and white. Even after WWX comes back from the dead, he still blames him for the attack on Lotus Pier, despite WWX not being responsible for that. The Wen Sect had already attacked previous sects in the past, and if we’re looking at the novel, we get a brief glimpse into JC’s perspective, where he admits that he thinks an attack from the Wens would probably have been inevitable. I’m fine with him losing control in the moment because he was a child that had just lost his family, but he holds this same opinion years later as an adult. Not to mention, when the Wens attacked his mother deliberately antagonised them and didn’t even try to handle the situation diplomatically despite being in charge of the Sect – yet JC seems to fully blame WWX for it. Maybe he doesn’t really believe this deep down, but he’s a grown adult and it’s getting kind of exhausting

Im a Jiang Cheng fan but don’t think it’s right to simultaneously hero worship WW while demonising JC or hero worship JC while demonising WW.
First there was a lot of JC hate for standing by while the more powerful aspects, or rather the Jin sect attacked WW and the Wen Remnants. Not only was JC building a sect up from the ground, he was doing it alone, heavily reliant on the Jin, whom Yanli was going to marry into and hes young and the Jin are the most powerful. JC chose his own sect, because it’s his sect, he is the sect leader. No one can expect him to do any different. Jin Guangyao and Jin Guangshan manipulated the entire cultivation world into hating we, and yes, its arguable that JC should have had more faith in his brother, but you also have to think about the fact that JC has no idea what the fudge is going on with ww. He doesn’t know what happened in the burial mounds, he does t know that WW CAN’T follow the righteous path anymore, he doesn’t know that he owes Wen Qing and Wen Ning. And his brother who promised to stay by his side is acting out in a way that he can’t defend not only cuz he’s not in a position to but because he himself doesn’t understand. Becoming corrupted by resentful energy is an actual thing, and to everyone looking in from the outside it was easy to believe that WW was going crazy because he didnt give them reason to think otherwise. To anyone not knowing what ww knows his behaviour DOES seem arrogant and that type of arrogance combined with his power is something to be feared. JC or anyone really had no way of knowing that ww lost control of Wen Ning cuz of someone else’s intervention. The fact that he lost co trol, and killed his brother in law was proof of what the Jin Sect claimed.
Simultaneously Wei Ying is not a bad person, he was just doing the right thing, but the way he went about it, was stupid. Moreover, the fact that the other clans stood by….Gusu and Yunmeng, especially Yunmeng let’s say that they were powerless? But the Nie Clan was definitely could have opposed it, it’s just nie mingjue wanted them all dead from what I remember. But yeah ww made a bunch of mistakes, not considering the consequences of the way he went about things and the secrets he kept. But JCs pride and anger definitely made him more suspictable to JGYs manipulation. As for the killing tabloid thig, no it was not directly ww fault, I think JC just needed someone to blame and he was already mad at WW for abandoning him and in JCs view driving it all to this. And I think he held on to that view because the alternative would have broken him, and he couldnt afford that with JL to raise. And something I definitely dont like about the Untamed is how it had JC stabbing that rock. I men yes WW would have died anyway there’s no way he wouldn’t have either been taken over by the resentful energy or killed by the jin, but in the novel he does because of the backlash from destroying the tiger seal, even though everyone thinks JC killed him.
But yeah in the end both of them did wrong things, both of them have their own sides and that’s what makes the story interesting. jC is not like ww, he would choose his family and clan over strangers, even if it was the wrong thing to do, while ww would protect his family but also leave them to protect strangers. Neither is inherently bad because both make sense.

OKAY SO LIKE
I saw this comment that JC ‘turned on ww at the drop of a hat’and ‘believed all the rumours about ww’ and killed demonic cultivators cuz he thought they were ww
FIRST. JC stuck with ww, and was running a sect by himself while ww was not helping at all. Refusing to carry his sword, which was a huge offense, and being generally combative and making problems when the Jiang sect could not handle problems cuz they were barely staying afloat!
Well ww can’t help it? He didnt have his golden core?
JC DOESN’T KNOW THAT. BECUASE WW DIDNT TELL HIM.
To everyone who is not reader it looks like ww is abandoning JC, pulling away, being changed by his cultivation method. jc doesnt even know what happened to him in the burial mounds cuz ww sure as hell didnt tell him, and with this lack of information JC, who’s still a kid and basically running a sect alone, has to draw his own conclusions.
When ww starts defending the WEN??? JC doesnt know what he owes to WN or WQ, he couldnt defend ww before when the jin sect started questioning him about the tiger seal because JC himself doesnt know why ww is acting the way he is, JC cant tell the Jin to fuck off because at that point they were the most powerful sect and Yanli might have even married in at one point.
JC stuck around u till he had to choose, a d he chose his sect, which he was responsible for, his family over the Wens and yes that may not have been morally righteous but he can’t be blamed for that. Because WW asked him to kick him out, the both of them are idiots cuz I mean I’m sure they could have figured out some other alternative but NEITHER or them were very communicative so welp.
And also since WW who said he’d stand by him is suddenly not next to him, suddenly a different person what else other than rumours does JC have to go on? What did WW do to disprove the rumours to JC? While he knows is the way he is.
And yes the demonic cultivator torture is like morbid and horrible that I agree with, but also co sider the fact that that itself is also a rumour, we dont know wth jc wanted cuz everyone was underdeveloped in the latter bit cuz the novel focused on wangxian. But again considering that to JC at least, ww seemed to have gone crazy and evil is it that much of a surprise that he’s looking for him? I dont agree with his killing spree tho that’s kinda psychotic.
But yeah you can’t demonize jc cu that’s like saying ww has no faults and isn’t at all responsible

people defending jc here actually makes me hate him more

I just have a hard time defending a guy who leads a siege to murder a group of civilians. When he visited the BM for the first time, A-Yuan clang to his leg but JC admitted to himself that A-Yuan was a cute toddler but that he only saw a Wen dog. He asked WW to leave the BM so that he, JC could kill them all and fix the problem.

Then JC has a chance to explain why WW is helping Wen Quin and her brother but he chooses not to, just because JGH plays with his insecurities. Next, he says in front of all the clans that Wei Wuxian has declared himself the enemy of the cultivation world. He could have said that WW was farming the land and wanted to be left alone, but instead he named him “the enemy of the cultivation world”.

Finally, he led the siage to murder WW and the Wen, knowing there was a toddler among them and not giving a shit. It was thanks to Wen Quin and Wen Ning that he was able to burry his own parents, but he doesn’t extend the same cortesy to the Wen he slaughters, throwing their bodies to the blood pool.

But this that’s not give him clousure. Instead of moving on, he keeps hanging to his hatred of WW, blaming him for his unhappiness, and torturing people to death just because they resemble him.

At this point, he knows they are not WW. In fact, once he captured WW he tortures him but makes not move to kill him (my mom has phobia to feathers and believe me, what JC does to WW is torture). He doesn’t want to kill WW again, he wants him to suffer, to apologize, to go back to being his servant/brother. But these other people, he kills them because it’s therapeutic for him.

As a Sect Leader, he has a duty to help his people, but he doesn’t dispatch cultivator unless someone has already died. People are too afraid of him to ask him for help.

This man is not a good person, no matter how I look at it.

I read the novel carefully, and I don’t believe JF favored WW over his own son. I get the opposite feeling. There are many time when JF is trying to teach JC how to be a good leader, how to follow the Jiang motto, but JC rejects him because his mind has being poisoned by his mother, She is the only who believes JF favors WW and doesn’t love JC, when in reality JF was never in love with her, didn’t want to marry her, was forced to marry her, and never love her. But he loved his children.

There is no one hint in the novel that JF favored WW over JC, other than JC’s feelings and inner thoughts. It was all his mother’s words. She did irreparable damage to him.

But that’s not a excuse. I don’t believe a sad childhood and childhood trauma is an excuse to hurt others. I also had many family issues in my childhood/teenagers years, having thought at one point of killing myself to escape a situation beyond my control, but I don’t use that as an excuse to be cruel in my adult years. At some point we all have to grow and account for our choices. LZ did. JC didn’t.

Ps. I don’t dislike JC more than, let’s say, LX. And both are fascinating characters. Sure, JC is meaner, but LX is guilty of many crimes by association/inaction. Both took the easy way, and both pay for it. At the end of the novel, of the older generation, everyone was punished by their mistakes. JC ends up alone and LX ends up in seclusion. They lie they had told themselves for thirteen years (that WW was to blame for everything and that JGY had a good reason to slaughter entire clans) no longer hold. It’s only LZ and WX that have a happy ending, a reward for standing by what’s right no matter what.

The Junior Generation sees the horror and cruelty of the older generation and choose to make a different stand. So there’s still hope in the cultivation world.